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“When you have a clear-cut leader, especially one who’s not a dick, it just makes things easier. We’re not going to sit around and squabble for three days like little fucking high school chicks over a T-shirt design or a lyric or a tempo to a song. At the end of the day, Dave can say, ‘Hey, this is it.’ And it kind of keeps the peace, because when it comes to making art, there aren’t many democracies.”
Fresh from a ferocious rehearsal session for the VMAs, Hawkins is now ferociously attacking a chicken quesadilla and a mound of guacamole and holding forth on the Benign Dictatorship of Dave. “Everybody here is rich because of Dave, and he cuts people in on an artistic level, too. If I was just sitting there, with Dave saying, ‘ This is exactly the drum part you’re playing,’ I would bail.”
As he approaches elder-statesman status, Grohl stops short of considering himself a mentor to younger bands. He prefers to think of himself as a friend—with benefits. Upon first hearing My Morning Jacket, for example, he invited them out on tour, captivated by their Flying V’s and their flying locks. “I wanna see a band go up there and bleed beer. I wanna see a band that isn’t perfect, that doesn’t sound like the album. Those are the bands I’m sticking up for,” he says, four days after the VMAs. “It’s disconcerting when you see someone who’s supposed to be considered an artist lip-synch a routine in a bikini. That’s not music. I don’t know what the fuck that is.”
And so Grohl remains (without exactly meaning to be) perpetually on the lookout for fresh beerlike blood. “There’s a band here right now in the [606] studio from Detroit,” he tells me excitedly. “They’ve been recording for the past two days—and it sounds amazing, so I just asked them to come out on our fall tour.” He pauses for a moment and then adds, under his breath, “I gotta get their fucking name.”
“I was pretty upset he left,” Grohl admits, recalling Smear’s departure just after the release of 1997’s The Colour and the Shape. “I’d been through a lot with this guy.” A few years ago, though, the pair “got together and laughed and apologized and told each other we loved each other.” When it came time to recruit a third guitarist for last year’s Afoostic tour, Grohl figured, “rather than just get some Rolodex rocker, why not get someone who knows what it’s like to be a Foo Fighter? I wanted the dynamic that we have when we play and when we just hang out together. It felt like a much bigger family. I remember seeing a Dead Can Dance gig and how cool it was that there were all these people onstage. Sometimes they played and sometimes they didn’t. It seemed so musical, like a twisted orchestra. That’s what I wanted to accomplish.”
Foos 1.0: Pat Smear, Grohl, drummer William Goldsmith, and Mendel
“Last night our keyboard player Rami [Jaffee] was about to split the band to go back to the Wallflowers,” Grohl tells me. We’re back out on his patio, watching the shadows stretch toward dusk. “I had to make that decision:
Specifically, what he’s trying to do is make the Foos an eight-piece band, one that includes Jaffee, violinist Jessy Greene, percussionist Drew Hester, and guitarist Pat Smear, who had performed with Nirvana and was the Foos’ original second guitarist (after Grohl himself, who played nearly all the instruments on their eponymous 1995 debut album).
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